1 00:00:47,911 --> 00:00:52,494 THE LOOK OF SILENCE 2 00:00:56,994 --> 00:01:00,004 a film by Joshua Oppenheimer. 3 00:01:12,814 --> 00:01:16,589 Why am I singing? 4 00:01:16,856 --> 00:01:21,241 To relieve my broken heart. 5 00:01:27,921 --> 00:01:32,338 Why should I spin yarn- 6 00:01:33,864 --> 00:01:38,572 - if in the end the yarn will be cut? 7 00:01:43,129 --> 00:01:46,296 Why should I remember- 8 00:01:46,838 --> 00:01:51,296 - if remembering only breaks my heart? 9 00:01:59,379 --> 00:02:03,004 Ali Sumito was killed in Sukasari. 10 00:02:03,962 --> 00:02:05,379 What happened? 11 00:02:05,962 --> 00:02:11,675 My men were afraid of blood. 12 00:02:12,796 --> 00:02:17,420 So I chocked him like this. His tongue came out... 13 00:02:21,754 --> 00:02:23,306 You asked! 14 00:02:24,295 --> 00:02:25,764 I ripped him open. 15 00:02:26,168 --> 00:02:29,505 His intestines spilled out. 16 00:02:34,753 --> 00:02:36,389 Another one... 17 00:02:36,848 --> 00:02:39,056 I threw him. 18 00:02:39,326 --> 00:02:45,034 He landed on a rock and cracked his skull. 19 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:48,770 He tried to hold his head together. 20 00:03:13,944 --> 00:03:18,278 In 1965, the Indonesian government was overthrown by the military. 21 00:03:19,851 --> 00:03:22,726 Anybody opposed to the military dictatorship... 22 00:03:22,752 --> 00:03:25,627 could be accused of being a communist... 23 00:03:25,653 --> 00:03:29,726 union members, landless farmers and intellectuals. 24 00:03:30,037 --> 00:03:31,672 In less than a year,... 25 00:03:31,698 --> 00:03:35,448 over one million "communists" were murdered... 26 00:03:35,474 --> 00:03:38,891 and the perpetrators still hold power throughout the country. 27 00:03:48,409 --> 00:03:51,201 Your mom misses you, Ramli. 28 00:03:54,511 --> 00:03:57,845 I haven't seen you for so long, Ramli. 29 00:04:00,221 --> 00:04:04,012 I still see you in my dreams.. 30 00:04:09,219 --> 00:04:12,719 You can see me, but I can't see you. 31 00:04:12,994 --> 00:04:15,286 I wish I could see you. 32 00:04:29,177 --> 00:04:31,302 You're my son. 33 00:04:31,844 --> 00:04:34,344 I raised you. I miss you. 34 00:04:37,173 --> 00:04:38,923 You were tortured, 35 00:04:40,053 --> 00:04:41,928 dumped in the river... 36 00:04:46,338 --> 00:04:47,778 Nothing left but your bones. 37 00:04:48,597 --> 00:04:50,513 No flesh. 38 00:04:55,968 --> 00:04:59,302 Please pray that I'll get well. 39 00:04:59,563 --> 00:05:05,105 Your dad is sick too. He's blind, crippled, deaf... 40 00:05:05,385 --> 00:05:07,926 It's our fate. 41 00:05:09,477 --> 00:05:12,352 We're both sick.. 42 00:05:14,176 --> 00:05:17,301 Mine isn't so serious... just a pain in my hip. 43 00:05:27,515 --> 00:05:28,640 Lift yourself up. 44 00:05:30,298 --> 00:05:31,340 Lift yourself up. 45 00:05:33,093 --> 00:05:34,645 Give me your hand. 46 00:05:39,343 --> 00:05:40,676 And the other one. 47 00:05:45,251 --> 00:05:46,501 Lift yourself up. 48 00:05:49,489 --> 00:05:50,573 Lift yourself up. 49 00:05:52,141 --> 00:05:55,891 Come to the wheelchair. 50 00:05:56,217 --> 00:05:59,425 - Lift myself? - Yes. 51 00:06:00,665 --> 00:06:01,748 Wait. 52 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,661 - It's about the same. - Do you fell dizzy? 53 00:06:45,216 --> 00:06:48,143 - Which is better? - This one. 54 00:07:09,091 --> 00:07:12,882 - Where did you live in 1965? - Aceh. 55 00:07:15,216 --> 00:07:19,434 In Aceh, many people were killed in 1965. 56 00:07:19,757 --> 00:07:22,518 No, nothing happened. 57 00:07:23,382 --> 00:07:26,309 I heard they hung people. 58 00:07:27,132 --> 00:07:29,007 No, it was calm. 59 00:07:33,632 --> 00:07:37,684 At Snake River, many people were killed. 60 00:07:38,007 --> 00:07:41,798 You mean communists? I know nothing about it. 61 00:07:42,048 --> 00:07:45,215 - In Aceh, nothing happened? - No. 62 00:07:47,164 --> 00:07:50,414 - Do you remember the communists? - Of course. 63 00:07:50,507 --> 00:07:52,225 Who were they? 64 00:07:52,810 --> 00:07:57,726 I don't know what they did, but they were blindfolded... 65 00:07:58,590 --> 00:08:01,684 brought to the river, slaughtered, shot. 66 00:08:01,812 --> 00:08:04,262 Who slaughtered them? 67 00:08:04,442 --> 00:08:05,987 How should I know? 68 00:08:08,002 --> 00:08:10,502 You ask too many questions. 69 00:08:10,933 --> 00:08:14,392 Sorry. I'm just passing the time. 70 00:08:15,048 --> 00:08:20,964 When I meet older people, I like to hear about the past. 71 00:08:22,631 --> 00:08:25,798 Glasses! I'm selling glasses! 72 00:08:32,298 --> 00:08:34,631 Playing with the glasses? 73 00:08:35,756 --> 00:08:38,297 You'll regret it!! 74 00:08:40,964 --> 00:08:43,724 My eyes are big! 75 00:08:46,422 --> 00:08:49,433 Want to buy glasses, sir? 76 00:08:59,464 --> 00:09:01,839 These look better on me. 77 00:09:10,144 --> 00:09:12,269 Dad, can you still sing? 78 00:09:14,297 --> 00:09:16,922 - What? - Can you sing? 79 00:09:17,099 --> 00:09:18,493 Of course! 80 00:09:20,439 --> 00:09:21,569 Please, sing. 81 00:09:22,255 --> 00:09:25,182 You're so sexy 82 00:09:26,088 --> 00:09:28,088 �I can't stand it! 83 00:09:30,755 --> 00:09:33,463 You're so sexy 84 00:09:34,463 --> 00:09:36,588 �I can't stand it! 85 00:09:38,171 --> 00:09:41,630 Your long, curly hair... 86 00:09:41,963 --> 00:09:44,588 Your soft checks... 87 00:09:45,421 --> 00:09:48,515 So pleasing to the eyes... 88 00:09:48,921 --> 00:09:51,848 Are you married yet? 89 00:09:53,713 --> 00:09:56,129 When your brother died, 90 00:09:56,749 --> 00:09:58,707 your dad's teeth fell out one by one. 91 00:09:59,665 --> 00:10:01,456 It was terrible. 92 00:10:02,587 --> 00:10:07,129 Every morning, he lost another tooth, until he had two left. 93 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:09,632 He wouldn't speak. 94 00:10:11,671 --> 00:10:13,389 I couldn't eat. 95 00:10:13,962 --> 00:10:16,727 I couldn't sleep. I couldn't bathe. 96 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:19,973 I just sat under the tamarind tree... 97 00:10:21,337 --> 00:10:26,337 and remember how your brother always sat there... 98 00:10:27,122 --> 00:10:30,789 and ate his dinner. 99 00:10:34,170 --> 00:10:37,014 You look just like him 100 00:10:38,295 --> 00:10:40,377 You are the answer to my prayers. 101 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,237 I'd pray... 102 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:46,920 "Please replace my dead son". 103 00:10:47,315 --> 00:10:51,065 If you weren't born I'd have gone crazy. 104 00:10:51,436 --> 00:10:53,010 I thought my life was over... 105 00:10:53,304 --> 00:10:59,173 But two years after he died, you were born. 106 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:47,294 American news report 1967 107 00:12:11,335 --> 00:12:16,127 But now Bali has become more beautiful without communists. 108 00:12:18,835 --> 00:12:24,001 Some of the communists leaders from this village realized they were wrong... 109 00:12:24,085 --> 00:12:27,178 and came to the village council and asked... 110 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:32,168 when the village council will clean the village from the communist people? 111 00:12:35,094 --> 00:12:38,738 Some of them. Some of them wanted to be killed, 112 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:43,501 "and now give me a chance to say goodbye to my relatives... 113 00:12:43,527 --> 00:12:45,959 and the next morning I'm ready to be killed". 114 00:14:05,567 --> 00:14:08,788 Can you swim like those kids? 115 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:11,774 Of course. It's shallow. 116 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,065 You just act brave! 117 00:14:27,325 --> 00:14:29,950 Communists are cruel. 118 00:14:32,216 --> 00:14:36,465 Communists don't believe in God. 119 00:14:37,549 --> 00:14:40,965 To change the political system, 120 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,807 the communists kidnapped six army generals. 121 00:14:49,325 --> 00:14:54,283 They sliced the general's faces with razor blades.. 122 00:14:56,366 --> 00:14:57,449 Would you like that? 123 00:14:58,699 --> 00:15:03,158 Imagine how painful it would be if your eyes were gouged out. 124 00:15:06,116 --> 00:15:09,324 Their eyes were ripped out! 125 00:15:10,161 --> 00:15:12,174 If you slaughtered a chicken, 126 00:15:12,427 --> 00:15:17,508 and just rip its head off... Wouldn't that be cruel? 127 00:15:17,682 --> 00:15:18,991 Cruel. 128 00:15:20,116 --> 00:15:22,741 The communists were cruel. 129 00:15:23,949 --> 00:15:28,282 So the Government had to repress them. 130 00:15:31,074 --> 00:15:36,365 The communists were put in prison. 131 00:15:37,157 --> 00:15:43,240 Their children couldn't become government officials. 132 00:15:47,365 --> 00:15:52,529 Hey! You're the child of a communist! 133 00:15:53,182 --> 00:15:57,650 You are not allowed to work for the government! 134 00:15:57,990 --> 00:16:02,359 Hey! Your grandfather was a communist! 135 00:16:03,149 --> 00:16:04,375 You're not allowed in the army! 136 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:11,610 Hey! Your grandmother was a communist! 137 00:16:12,089 --> 00:16:15,755 You can't join the police! 138 00:16:18,986 --> 00:16:24,361 If you rebel against the state, you go to jail. 139 00:16:25,656 --> 00:16:27,291 So let's... 140 00:16:27,823 --> 00:16:30,857 thank the heroes, 141 00:16:30,961 --> 00:16:36,239 who struggle to make our country a... 142 00:16:36,976 --> 00:16:40,267 Democracy! 143 00:16:55,114 --> 00:16:59,947 The generals refused to sign, so their faces were cut with razors. 144 00:17:00,197 --> 00:17:02,280 Their eyes were gouged out. 145 00:17:03,289 --> 00:17:07,205 Another general refused to sign... 146 00:17:09,197 --> 00:17:11,905 ...so they sliced his cheek. 147 00:17:13,488 --> 00:17:17,790 When he still refused, they gouged out his eyes. 148 00:17:19,197 --> 00:17:23,332 According to your teacher, who killed the generals? 149 00:17:24,475 --> 00:17:25,860 The killers... 150 00:17:30,196 --> 00:17:34,030 - Didn't he say it was the communists? - Yes. 151 00:17:37,446 --> 00:17:38,832 It's all lies. 152 00:17:40,613 --> 00:17:44,488 All this talk about gouging eyes... 153 00:17:44,514 --> 00:17:46,639 So the communists weren't cruel? 154 00:17:47,071 --> 00:17:49,998 No, they weren't. 155 00:17:51,196 --> 00:17:52,613 He was told they were cruel. 156 00:17:53,363 --> 00:17:57,363 The generals were killed by the army, not by the communists. 157 00:17:57,861 --> 00:18:03,654 Did your teacher mention the people killed at Snake River? 158 00:18:04,529 --> 00:18:09,779 Or the million innocent people who were murdered? 159 00:18:10,501 --> 00:18:11,626 No. 160 00:18:30,654 --> 00:18:32,862 They sat in the truck like this. 161 00:18:35,089 --> 00:18:38,381 All of them were crying. 162 00:18:42,570 --> 00:18:44,237 Paralyzed with fear. 163 00:18:45,112 --> 00:18:49,316 Blindfolded, hands tied. 164 00:18:50,987 --> 00:18:54,403 They had seen our machetes. So sharp. 165 00:18:58,976 --> 00:19:00,768 This way is comfortable. 166 00:19:01,445 --> 00:19:02,913 Grab another. 167 00:19:03,528 --> 00:19:05,445 Their hands were tied. 168 00:19:06,278 --> 00:19:10,945 - Joshua, when was this filmed? - 2003. April. 169 00:19:12,893 --> 00:19:15,852 Maybe he acts this way... 170 00:19:16,944 --> 00:19:18,361 ...because... 171 00:19:22,169 --> 00:19:26,711 ...he regrets what he did. 172 00:19:27,778 --> 00:19:30,402 He regrets killing people. 173 00:19:31,986 --> 00:19:35,736 Because he feels guilty... 174 00:19:35,777 --> 00:19:40,527 ...when he re-enacts the killing, he's completely numb. 175 00:19:43,236 --> 00:19:44,736 You asked! 176 00:19:45,902 --> 00:19:47,621 Are you done shooting? 177 00:19:48,152 --> 00:19:50,996 This is what I did to women. 178 00:19:52,969 --> 00:19:55,844 Rip off her shirt... 179 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,235 Kick! 180 00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:21,360 They stole from their victims. 181 00:20:23,610 --> 00:20:25,901 Now they are rich. 182 00:20:28,485 --> 00:20:32,318 They killed the husbands and took their wives. 183 00:20:35,685 --> 00:20:42,556 How do you feel living surrounded by your son's killers? 184 00:20:43,318 --> 00:20:46,161 You see them every day... 185 00:20:53,526 --> 00:20:54,859 It's horrible. 186 00:20:56,817 --> 00:20:58,776 When we meet in the village... 187 00:20:59,651 --> 00:21:03,609 ...we don't speak. 188 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,055 I hate them. 189 00:21:19,525 --> 00:21:24,772 In our village, the mayor, the teachers... 190 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:29,287 ...they were all killers. 191 00:21:31,146 --> 00:21:36,311 It's up to God. Those people can do what they like. 192 00:21:38,345 --> 00:21:41,022 They destroyed so many people... 193 00:21:41,925 --> 00:21:45,442 Now they enjoy life. 194 00:21:46,052 --> 00:21:49,591 But just wait. In the afterlife, their victims will take revenge. 195 00:21:51,358 --> 00:21:53,858 They will suffer later. 196 00:21:55,568 --> 00:21:58,610 There's no use raising it now. 197 00:22:04,733 --> 00:22:06,524 How old are you, mom? 198 00:22:08,207 --> 00:22:12,251 Around 100. 199 00:22:13,774 --> 00:22:20,119 - How old does your ID card say you are? - My ID card 200 00:22:21,445 --> 00:22:23,362 I lost it. 201 00:22:23,837 --> 00:22:31,598 This is dad's ID. "Born in 1909" 202 00:22:32,884 --> 00:22:36,134 So he's 103 years old. 203 00:22:36,732 --> 00:22:39,607 Your dad? Impossible. 204 00:22:41,899 --> 00:22:44,065 But the problem is... 205 00:22:44,414 --> 00:22:47,123 Your dad must be 140 years old. 206 00:22:48,065 --> 00:22:50,315 He's been sick like this for 13 years. 207 00:22:51,315 --> 00:22:55,906 But mom, dad says he's 17. 208 00:23:00,315 --> 00:23:02,622 My hair went gray before his. 209 00:23:03,229 --> 00:23:06,645 Have you ever celebrated your birthday, mom? 210 00:23:07,273 --> 00:23:10,117 No, I don't believe in that. You get addicted to it. 211 00:23:12,066 --> 00:23:14,024 We never celebrate birthdays. 212 00:23:14,190 --> 00:23:17,315 - Where do you sleep? - There. 213 00:23:17,606 --> 00:23:20,856 - Why not with dad? - He smells of pee. 214 00:23:24,993 --> 00:23:34,354 When I want be hugged, he tickles me. 215 00:23:36,064 --> 00:23:41,254 - But you have many children! - When it's time to make babies, we do it. 216 00:23:41,342 --> 00:23:44,353 I can't sleep when he hugs me, 217 00:23:44,777 --> 00:23:49,485 so I kick him, and leaves me alone. 218 00:24:18,745 --> 00:24:24,661 Every night, we'd load our quota onto a truck... 219 00:24:26,048 --> 00:24:27,798 and drive to Snake River. 220 00:24:28,188 --> 00:24:31,522 Leaders of the village death squad Amir Hasan and Inong 221 00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:33,522 The truck would stop here. 222 00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:38,530 We'd pull our prisoners off the truck... 223 00:24:38,556 --> 00:24:44,172 and drag them 100 meters downstream. 224 00:24:44,563 --> 00:24:48,813 Some screamed. Some cried. Some begged for mercy. 225 00:24:48,896 --> 00:24:52,688 We already beat them on the truck... 226 00:24:52,855 --> 00:24:56,604 so they couldn't run away once they got here. 227 00:24:57,563 --> 00:25:01,396 This road was packed with Komando Aksi members. 228 00:25:01,521 --> 00:25:03,438 But it was night! 229 00:25:03,604 --> 00:25:06,146 And outsiders weren't allowed in. 230 00:25:06,938 --> 00:25:10,604 Only us. Each district would take turns. 231 00:25:11,123 --> 00:25:12,873 For example, let's say you're a victim, 232 00:25:14,479 --> 00:25:17,687 You have no strength left... 233 00:25:17,812 --> 00:25:20,937 - Because we beat you. - I'm limp. 234 00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:24,021 Please squat, sir. 235 00:25:24,337 --> 00:25:29,263 - Now start to beg... - But I'd be sitting, not squatting. 236 00:25:30,352 --> 00:25:33,060 They drag me by the legs... 237 00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:36,562 - But I'm not wearing clothes. - No clothes. 238 00:25:36,937 --> 00:25:38,270 Only underwear. 239 00:25:38,766 --> 00:25:41,224 - How as he pulled? - Like this! 240 00:25:42,479 --> 00:25:44,668 He would be lying down. 241 00:25:44,694 --> 00:25:46,725 His hands would be tied. 242 00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:50,039 "Drag him! To the riverbank!" 243 00:25:50,853 --> 00:25:53,812 He's totally helpless now. 244 00:26:11,311 --> 00:26:12,561 It's pretty. 245 00:26:15,728 --> 00:26:17,020 It smells lovely! 246 00:26:17,561 --> 00:26:21,763 it smells lovely... but it's subtle. 247 00:26:39,019 --> 00:26:41,102 So this is the place? 248 00:26:41,602 --> 00:26:45,852 They brought us out here, and took us that way. 249 00:26:46,977 --> 00:26:49,738 Survivor from Snake River Kemat. 250 00:26:50,769 --> 00:26:53,696 - Were you lined up? - Yes, single line. 251 00:27:00,580 --> 00:27:03,122 Were people watching like this? 252 00:27:05,932 --> 00:27:08,776 No! People were too scared to watch. 253 00:27:09,185 --> 00:27:11,602 - No one came out? - No way. 254 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,110 No one dared. 255 00:27:17,935 --> 00:27:21,643 Is this where Ramli realized he would be killed? 256 00:27:22,867 --> 00:27:24,742 Yes, he screamed for help.. 257 00:27:25,518 --> 00:27:27,935 He screamed, "They're going to kill us?" 258 00:27:28,727 --> 00:27:33,310 He kept shouting, "They're going to kill us all." 259 00:27:36,266 --> 00:27:39,724 - Where did you escape? - By that house. 260 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,226 I could hear screaming and gunshots. 261 00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:49,815 Bang! bang! bang! 262 00:27:52,934 --> 00:27:56,271 So this is where Ramli was hacked up. 263 00:27:57,035 --> 00:28:01,254 And this man jumped from the truck... 264 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,434 and escaped into the plantation. 265 00:28:08,143 --> 00:28:10,727 How do you feel coming back here? 266 00:28:11,601 --> 00:28:18,351 The past is past. I've accepted it. I don't want to remember. 267 00:28:18,851 --> 00:28:22,059 It's just asking for trouble. 268 00:28:22,809 --> 00:28:27,027 It's covered up. Why open it again? 269 00:28:29,725 --> 00:28:32,975 The wound has healed. 270 00:28:35,434 --> 00:28:38,916 Is there a path down to the river? 271 00:28:44,392 --> 00:28:48,350 So we dragged them down this hill. 272 00:28:48,683 --> 00:28:52,642 If they didn't want to be dragged, we threw them. 273 00:28:55,475 --> 00:28:56,600 Like this... 274 00:29:00,058 --> 00:29:02,016 It's slippery. 275 00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:11,369 Now we're safe. 276 00:29:13,516 --> 00:29:15,474 "Help! Mercy!" 277 00:29:16,224 --> 00:29:19,183 We'd drag them. Some of them screamed. 278 00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,849 "Please, sir! Have mercy!" 279 00:29:22,016 --> 00:29:26,401 - But we don't care... - "Help, please!" 280 00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:29,849 In fact, we beat him again to shut him up, 281 00:29:29,891 --> 00:29:34,224 because his screams could frighten my men. 282 00:29:34,391 --> 00:29:37,016 Please don't kill me!" 283 00:29:37,042 --> 00:29:39,167 But we keep pulling him... 284 00:29:39,571 --> 00:29:42,987 There's another man pushing me from behind. 285 00:29:43,891 --> 00:29:46,422 From here, can the prisoners see the blood? 286 00:29:46,802 --> 00:29:47,906 Yes. 287 00:29:48,857 --> 00:29:53,159 Yes, because the place was lit by torches. 288 00:29:54,974 --> 00:29:57,932 - So you know you're about to be killed? - Yes. 289 00:29:58,015 --> 00:30:00,182 You can see the other's blood? 290 00:30:00,265 --> 00:30:03,890 - Yes, he knows. - Because others went first. 291 00:30:04,233 --> 00:30:07,274 So he's given up hope. 292 00:30:08,515 --> 00:30:13,015 "I'm about to die" he's thinking. "I'd better accept it". 293 00:30:14,723 --> 00:30:16,995 This is the spot. 294 00:30:18,884 --> 00:30:22,300 There were boards here. 295 00:30:24,293 --> 00:30:26,751 There was a pier. 296 00:30:27,075 --> 00:30:29,012 I'd walk out there... 297 00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:31,198 Like this. 298 00:30:31,746 --> 00:30:34,204 Some were lying down... 299 00:30:34,365 --> 00:30:37,781 Others were bent over. 300 00:30:37,947 --> 00:30:40,488 The executioner comes and hacks... 301 00:30:40,613 --> 00:30:42,905 Hacks through my neck.. 302 00:30:42,931 --> 00:30:46,639 - The blood! - Blood sprays everywhere. 303 00:30:46,681 --> 00:30:50,181 After my head's cut off, I'm kicked into the river. 304 00:30:50,264 --> 00:30:53,973 - Kicked that way. He floats... - So does my head. 305 00:30:54,556 --> 00:30:58,431 His body bobs up and down 306 00:31:08,474 --> 00:31:09,891 Slowly... 307 00:31:10,722 --> 00:31:12,681 My old body... 308 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,430 is heavy now. 309 00:31:51,930 --> 00:31:54,180 May peace be upon... 310 00:31:55,805 --> 00:31:58,680 those who rest here. 311 00:32:03,382 --> 00:32:05,048 My name is Kemat. 312 00:32:06,013 --> 00:32:08,471 I'm here with a friend. 313 00:32:09,412 --> 00:32:11,912 May God have mercy on us all. 314 00:32:18,054 --> 00:32:20,263 May God bless... 315 00:32:21,096 --> 00:32:23,637 everyone resting here, 316 00:32:24,346 --> 00:32:26,429 my friends, 317 00:32:27,437 --> 00:32:29,312 and family. 318 00:32:34,405 --> 00:32:36,578 It is up to God, 319 00:32:39,037 --> 00:32:40,954 to punish those who hurt, 320 00:32:41,762 --> 00:32:43,887 our friends, 321 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:46,054 and families. 322 00:32:46,554 --> 00:32:50,720 It is not for us to punish. 323 00:32:59,470 --> 00:33:02,147 Oh God, grant us peace. 324 00:34:44,993 --> 00:34:48,826 Inong Leader of the village death squad 325 00:35:21,884 --> 00:35:25,801 - How old are you? - 72. Almost a century. 326 00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:30,626 My ID card is now for life. 327 00:35:31,756 --> 00:35:33,391 No need to renew it. 328 00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:35,384 - Excuse me. - Go ahead. 329 00:35:37,535 --> 00:35:40,868 How did you meet Joshua? 330 00:35:42,565 --> 00:35:46,852 He came here seven years ago. 331 00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:01,929 Your left eye is covered. 332 00:36:02,967 --> 00:36:05,092 so we're testing your right eye. 333 00:36:05,675 --> 00:36:08,216 Look in the distance. 334 00:36:08,633 --> 00:36:11,800 - Is it sharper? - It's sharper. 335 00:36:18,383 --> 00:36:22,008 Are your neighbors afraid of you? 336 00:36:23,133 --> 00:36:26,841 Most people here were communists. 337 00:36:29,674 --> 00:36:30,883 They know... 338 00:36:31,883 --> 00:36:34,810 they're powerless against me. 339 00:36:35,299 --> 00:36:38,883 Because I'm part of a mass movement. 340 00:36:38,924 --> 00:36:43,757 Even if most people here were communists farmers... 341 00:36:44,546 --> 00:36:46,754 they're scared of me. 342 00:36:47,954 --> 00:36:50,996 - So people here, are afraid of you. - Yes. 343 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,340 Is this better? 344 00:37:00,909 --> 00:37:02,076 Yes. 345 00:37:07,007 --> 00:37:10,132 If we didn't drink human blood, 346 00:37:10,882 --> 00:37:12,382 we'd go crazy. 347 00:37:14,689 --> 00:37:17,939 Many went crazy. 348 00:37:22,548 --> 00:37:25,100 Is this more clear? 349 00:37:25,126 --> 00:37:27,461 No, it's the same. 350 00:37:29,610 --> 00:37:32,318 - How about this? - A bit blurry. 351 00:37:33,923 --> 00:37:36,298 Tell me about people going crazy. 352 00:37:36,704 --> 00:37:41,121 Some killed so many people, they went crazy. 353 00:37:41,965 --> 00:37:44,465 One man climbed a palm tree, 354 00:37:45,102 --> 00:37:46,580 each morning. 355 00:37:47,580 --> 00:37:49,923 to do the call prayer. 356 00:37:50,048 --> 00:37:52,131 He killed too many people... 357 00:37:52,173 --> 00:37:54,631 There's only one way to avoid it: 358 00:37:55,839 --> 00:37:57,339 drink your victim's blood, 359 00:37:58,020 --> 00:37:59,269 or go crazy. 360 00:38:00,089 --> 00:38:03,256 But if you drink blood, 361 00:38:05,089 --> 00:38:07,013 you can do anything! 362 00:38:10,759 --> 00:38:14,425 - How do you feel... - Both salty and sweet... 363 00:38:15,381 --> 00:38:16,714 Human blood. 364 00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:20,127 - Excuse me? - Human blood is salty and sweet. 365 00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:30,130 I know from experience... 366 00:38:30,797 --> 00:38:37,516 if you cut off a woman's breast, it looks like a coconut milk filter. 367 00:38:37,542 --> 00:38:40,138 Full of holes. 368 00:38:42,923 --> 00:38:46,406 There was a communists woman. 369 00:38:47,005 --> 00:38:48,880 She lived with her brother, 370 00:38:49,255 --> 00:38:51,630 but he wasn't communist. 371 00:38:52,005 --> 00:38:54,963 He didn't want to kill his own sister, 372 00:38:55,547 --> 00:38:57,047 so he sent her to me. 373 00:38:57,282 --> 00:39:00,574 - So you... - Yes, he sent her to me. 374 00:39:08,646 --> 00:39:16,528 Did you cut your victims more than once? 375 00:39:16,702 --> 00:39:19,827 No, only once! You must not cut humans twice. 376 00:39:20,921 --> 00:39:22,838 Then, why... 377 00:39:24,338 --> 00:39:27,870 did you cut off the woman's breast? 378 00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:29,183 Why not? 379 00:39:29,629 --> 00:39:31,213 You cut off her breast. 380 00:39:31,754 --> 00:39:33,754 - And then? - Her throat. 381 00:39:34,212 --> 00:39:36,754 - That's twice. - It doesn't matter. 382 00:39:36,796 --> 00:39:41,058 If they're bad people, you can hack them up.. 383 00:39:46,296 --> 00:39:50,598 - Who were the communists? - The Indonesian Communist Party. 384 00:39:56,087 --> 00:39:57,295 You said... 385 00:39:57,379 --> 00:40:01,254 Communist Party members had no religion. 386 00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:05,212 They had sex with each other's wives. 387 00:40:05,254 --> 00:40:06,587 So people say. 388 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:10,337 - That's only a rumor. - They said it themselves! 389 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,087 When we interrogated them. 390 00:40:19,128 --> 00:40:22,920 - But Islam doesn't teach killing. - No, it doesn't. 391 00:40:23,084 --> 00:40:24,959 Muhammad never killed anyone. 392 00:40:25,378 --> 00:40:27,711 He was against killing. 393 00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:32,295 But you're allowed to kill your enemies. 394 00:40:33,753 --> 00:40:35,086 So you... 395 00:40:35,253 --> 00:40:38,347 Why are you asking these questions? 396 00:40:38,461 --> 00:40:41,253 are you trying to make me angry? 397 00:40:42,128 --> 00:40:45,138 I know what you're doing. 398 00:40:46,045 --> 00:40:48,806 Your questions are too deep. 399 00:40:49,419 --> 00:40:52,513 I don't like deep questions! 400 00:40:52,794 --> 00:40:56,003 I can cancel this! I don't mind. 401 00:40:58,035 --> 00:41:03,826 You ask much deeper questions than Joshua ever asked.. 402 00:41:04,627 --> 00:41:06,377 I don't like it. 403 00:41:07,459 --> 00:41:10,219 I don't like talking about politics. 404 00:41:10,294 --> 00:41:14,513 - You keep talking about politics! - I know nothing about politics. 405 00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:19,627 You say that, but your questions are political! 406 00:41:20,669 --> 00:41:22,387 And I have no more time. 407 00:41:23,085 --> 00:41:24,721 I'm going to the mosque. 408 00:41:24,752 --> 00:41:26,221 I see. 409 00:41:27,975 --> 00:41:31,850 Okay. I will make you glasses. 410 00:41:32,793 --> 00:41:35,002 I know your prescription. 411 00:41:35,127 --> 00:41:38,377 - I'll choose frames that suit you. - Thank you. 412 00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:42,252 Please make them for reading. 413 00:41:47,387 --> 00:41:54,952 How do you see these events? 414 00:41:57,793 --> 00:41:59,512 It's over. 415 00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:02,751 Everything is safe now. 416 00:42:03,968 --> 00:42:06,509 The past is past. 417 00:42:07,489 --> 00:42:10,655 Luckily I drank blood. 418 00:42:11,084 --> 00:42:13,418 If not, I'd be crazy, 419 00:42:13,731 --> 00:42:16,742 calling to prayer from trees. 420 00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:24,792 But something disturbs me. 421 00:42:29,032 --> 00:42:32,907 I'm not here to harm you... 422 00:42:33,709 --> 00:42:35,751 but to reveal... 423 00:42:37,042 --> 00:42:38,876 the true history. 424 00:42:41,613 --> 00:42:46,116 All this time, history has been distorted. 425 00:42:46,198 --> 00:42:52,792 The people you killed had no religion. It's a lie. 426 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,584 It's only propaganda, 427 00:42:57,745 --> 00:43:08,015 to give religious people like you an excuse to kill. 428 00:43:08,625 --> 00:43:12,708 "Communists have sex with each other's wives"... 429 00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:14,708 It's a lie. It's propaganda! 430 00:43:14,792 --> 00:43:18,791 But you're talking politics again! 431 00:43:19,853 --> 00:43:23,791 It's bad! �Joshua, stop filming! 432 00:43:27,125 --> 00:43:31,541 Why do you always talk about politics? Always politics! 433 00:44:03,624 --> 00:44:05,582 Why are they moving? 434 00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:09,301 There's a butterfly inside. 435 00:44:15,624 --> 00:44:18,634 - Was your tooth pulled yesterday? - Yes. 436 00:44:19,582 --> 00:44:21,874 - Was it loose? - No. 437 00:44:26,582 --> 00:44:29,957 - How did they pull it? - With pliers. 438 00:44:31,748 --> 00:44:32,790 And? 439 00:44:34,373 --> 00:44:35,707 And... 440 00:44:38,863 --> 00:44:40,821 And... I don't know. 441 00:45:02,206 --> 00:45:04,081 "Mom!" 442 00:45:05,248 --> 00:45:08,498 "Is that you, Ramli?" "Have you come back?" "Yes, mom". 443 00:45:12,664 --> 00:45:14,164 "Come here, mom." 444 00:45:16,456 --> 00:45:18,539 I kissed him. 445 00:45:20,289 --> 00:45:22,414 I took off his clothes. 446 00:45:23,581 --> 00:45:26,039 He was covered with blood. 447 00:45:27,122 --> 00:45:30,216 He was ripped open.. 448 00:45:33,289 --> 00:45:35,622 "Mom, can I have coffee?" 449 00:45:36,817 --> 00:45:40,275 But when the water boiled, they came to take him away. 450 00:45:53,334 --> 00:45:55,876 They said they'd take him to the hospital. 451 00:45:57,745 --> 00:46:00,370 Of course they weren't taking him to the hospital! 452 00:46:01,762 --> 00:46:04,523 After all, he was running away from them. 453 00:46:08,038 --> 00:46:10,121 I kissed him... 454 00:46:10,996 --> 00:46:13,246 "Goodbye, mom"... 455 00:46:14,933 --> 00:46:17,308 "They won't let me come with you, Ramli". 456 00:46:22,288 --> 00:46:26,704 Pray that the killers' children suffer. 457 00:46:28,271 --> 00:46:30,104 Their children and grandchildren. 458 00:46:32,095 --> 00:46:35,887 The people who killed you... 459 00:46:35,913 --> 00:46:37,683 Pray... 460 00:46:37,704 --> 00:46:39,954 ...they get killed. 461 00:46:40,204 --> 00:46:41,954 May they suffer... 462 00:46:43,042 --> 00:46:45,292 The ones who killed you... 463 00:47:13,037 --> 00:47:17,120 Your long, wavy hair... 464 00:47:18,078 --> 00:47:22,078 Your soft cheeks... 465 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,453 So pleasing to the eyes... 466 00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:32,641 Are you married yet? 467 00:47:48,886 --> 00:47:50,011 Dad? 468 00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:53,755 How old are you? 469 00:47:54,203 --> 00:47:56,744 - How? - How old are you?? 470 00:47:57,244 --> 00:47:58,369 Now? 471 00:47:58,869 --> 00:48:01,453 Yes. How old are you? 472 00:48:02,744 --> 00:48:04,994 I'm... 473 00:48:19,244 --> 00:48:22,036 - Dad? - Approximately... 474 00:48:22,827 --> 00:48:25,671 16 or 17 years old. 475 00:48:26,744 --> 00:48:28,952 - You're 16? - Yes. 476 00:48:31,452 --> 00:48:35,431 I'm 44. So how can you be 16? 477 00:48:35,514 --> 00:48:36,619 What? 478 00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:39,910 I'm 44. how can you be 16? 479 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,020 Commander of Snake River death squads Amir Siahaan 480 00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:27,613 Maybe we can start with... 481 00:49:29,187 --> 00:49:31,104 With what happened? 482 00:49:34,090 --> 00:49:42,659 We exterminated communists for 3 months, day and night. 483 00:49:43,733 --> 00:49:50,461 We'd take them two miles from here. 484 00:49:51,117 --> 00:49:54,409 We'd dig a hole and bury them alive. 485 00:49:56,034 --> 00:50:00,742 We got lists of the prisoners who we brought to Snake River. 486 00:50:01,964 --> 00:50:06,422 Every night signed the list. 487 00:50:06,823 --> 00:50:09,698 How many people did you sign off? 488 00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:11,336 About... 489 00:50:12,117 --> 00:50:14,117 ...500-600 people. 490 00:50:15,277 --> 00:50:18,916 Because this is... 491 00:50:19,825 --> 00:50:24,450 an international issue, we should be given... 492 00:50:24,866 --> 00:50:27,116 We should be given a gift. 493 00:50:27,575 --> 00:50:34,460 We should be rewarded with a trip to America 494 00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:38,325 If not by airplane, a cruise will do. 495 00:50:38,658 --> 00:50:40,043 We deserve it! 496 00:50:40,658 --> 00:50:44,569 We did this because America taught us to hate communists. 497 00:51:08,074 --> 00:51:11,991 The wall that separate us, my love... 498 00:51:13,449 --> 00:51:18,282 It's a curse we can't avoid... 499 00:51:20,949 --> 00:51:26,490 I wish it wouldn't come between us. 500 00:51:27,568 --> 00:51:32,567 But please don't go... Stay with me, my love. 501 00:51:34,346 --> 00:51:39,073 You're a leader in this community... 502 00:51:39,370 --> 00:51:40,412 Yes. 503 00:51:40,835 --> 00:51:45,062 and you're very wealthy. 504 00:51:46,363 --> 00:51:48,113 �Did you become rich... 505 00:51:49,784 --> 00:51:52,575 from what you did? 506 00:51:54,529 --> 00:51:58,029 I thank God... 507 00:51:58,865 --> 00:52:01,740 I have many wealthy friends, 508 00:52:02,865 --> 00:52:04,500 who helped me... 509 00:52:05,379 --> 00:52:08,964 because of our heroic struggle. 510 00:52:10,198 --> 00:52:15,958 For example, when I built these buildings, they donated the materials. 511 00:52:16,991 --> 00:52:20,825 So all your wealth comes from what you did? 512 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,752 Yes. If you do good, you're rewarded. 513 00:52:30,748 --> 00:52:34,956 You were leader of Komando Aksi in this region... 514 00:52:35,697 --> 00:52:41,374 so you were responsible for the mass killing here. 515 00:52:43,072 --> 00:52:47,530 Do people around here know that of Komando Aksi? 516 00:52:47,812 --> 00:52:49,687 Yes, they do.. 517 00:52:50,739 --> 00:52:52,072 The thing is... 518 00:52:55,947 --> 00:52:57,051 I... 519 00:53:01,072 --> 00:53:02,566 My older brother... 520 00:53:03,426 --> 00:53:04,563 He was killed. 521 00:53:09,085 --> 00:53:11,710 Because you... 522 00:53:13,788 --> 00:53:16,632 commanded the killings. 523 00:53:17,530 --> 00:53:19,946 It wasn't really me... 524 00:53:20,551 --> 00:53:25,092 You were responsible, as leader of Komando Aksi. 525 00:53:25,747 --> 00:53:29,581 There were many Komando Aksi groups. 526 00:53:29,867 --> 00:53:32,738 But you were the top leader. 527 00:53:33,028 --> 00:53:36,194 Komando Aksi was the people united with the army. 528 00:53:36,904 --> 00:53:38,638 And we had commanders above us... 529 00:53:39,988 --> 00:53:43,113 and we were protected by the government. 530 00:53:50,404 --> 00:53:54,279 So you can't say I'm responsible. 531 00:53:55,399 --> 00:53:57,490 Every... 532 00:53:58,362 --> 00:54:01,946 ...killer I meet... 533 00:54:03,779 --> 00:54:06,539 None of them feel responsible. 534 00:54:09,031 --> 00:54:11,823 They don't even feel regret... 535 00:54:13,633 --> 00:54:15,758 I don't mean to offend you... 536 00:54:19,279 --> 00:54:20,487 but I think... 537 00:54:21,570 --> 00:54:26,362 you're avoiding your moral responsibility. 538 00:54:30,570 --> 00:54:32,778 You're trying to wash your hands of it. 539 00:54:40,570 --> 00:54:45,403 Adi, where did your brother live? 540 00:54:46,416 --> 00:54:48,207 Here in your region. 541 00:54:49,445 --> 00:54:51,080 In which village? 542 00:54:52,153 --> 00:54:53,320 In which village? 543 00:54:55,653 --> 00:54:56,757 I'm sorry... 544 00:54:57,653 --> 00:54:58,986 I won't tell you. 545 00:55:00,819 --> 00:55:02,236 What subdistrict? 546 00:55:03,069 --> 00:55:05,694 - I'm sorry... - Just tell me. It's okay. 547 00:55:10,278 --> 00:55:15,569 Please understand, I must hide my identity... 548 00:55:16,289 --> 00:55:21,367 because the killers are still in power... 549 00:55:22,527 --> 00:55:25,069 and still consider themselves heroes. 550 00:55:29,652 --> 00:55:33,319 These days, subversives are everywhere... 551 00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:35,848 The known communists aren't dangerous. 552 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,610 It's the secret ones who are dangerous. 553 00:55:39,995 --> 00:55:46,661 Maybe what you're doing now is a secret communist activity. 554 00:55:54,485 --> 00:55:58,049 If I came to you like this during the military dictatorship, 555 00:55:58,212 --> 00:56:00,652 what would you have done to me? 556 00:56:02,818 --> 00:56:05,415 You can't imagine what would have happened. 557 00:56:07,357 --> 00:56:11,357 Under the dictatorship? When everything was tense? 558 00:56:15,803 --> 00:56:17,553 You can't imagine what would have happened. 559 00:56:28,893 --> 00:56:30,559 So... Keep going. 560 00:56:33,041 --> 00:56:36,166 Continue with this communist activity. 561 00:56:38,901 --> 00:56:40,026 Keep going. 562 00:57:22,567 --> 00:57:23,650 Mom... 563 00:57:28,610 --> 00:57:33,985 I've been meeting the people who killed Ramli. 564 00:57:35,650 --> 00:57:41,243 We tried to save Ramli by bribing them with two cows. 565 00:57:41,691 --> 00:57:42,983 It didn't work 566 00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:48,428 Even if they did those things, if they felt regret... 567 00:57:48,691 --> 00:57:51,066 we could forgive them. 568 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,915 After all, we're neighbors. 569 00:57:55,441 --> 00:57:58,608 But you don't tell them you're his brother, do you? 570 00:57:59,036 --> 00:58:01,577 Yes, I do. 571 00:58:05,165 --> 00:58:07,123 Be careful! 572 00:58:07,931 --> 00:58:11,765 They could slip poison in your drink... 573 00:58:12,232 --> 00:58:15,274 so tell them you're fasting. 574 00:58:17,151 --> 00:58:18,984 Be very careful! 575 00:58:23,274 --> 00:58:28,458 They'll send thugs to rip you apart. 576 00:58:34,524 --> 00:58:39,399 What are you trying to do? Just leave it. 577 00:58:50,273 --> 00:58:52,615 Just bring a butterfly knife. 578 00:58:53,315 --> 00:58:55,312 Or a club wrapped in newspaper. 579 00:58:55,382 --> 00:58:57,835 If them try anything, hit them in the back of the head. 580 00:58:59,398 --> 00:59:01,065 Right here. 581 00:59:01,525 --> 00:59:04,536 They won't get up again. 582 00:59:15,606 --> 00:59:17,731 It's easy here. 583 00:59:17,939 --> 00:59:21,189 - There's a bone here. - The spine. 584 00:59:21,606 --> 00:59:25,023 Sometimes you have to chop twice. 585 00:59:25,064 --> 00:59:28,158 - But here's easy. - The throat. 586 00:59:28,814 --> 00:59:32,523 Keep slitting their throats. 587 00:59:34,981 --> 00:59:38,356 If you chop from behind, there's no noise. 588 00:59:38,397 --> 00:59:41,522 But when you slit the throat, there's noise. 589 00:59:41,606 --> 00:59:44,437 And blood sprays out. 590 00:59:54,439 --> 00:59:58,147 - Pretend this is a machete. - Stab me. 591 00:59:58,564 --> 01:00:00,980 Sorry, sir. Cut... 592 01:00:02,364 --> 01:00:05,905 Rip off his penis... Kick... Dead... 593 01:00:06,353 --> 01:00:08,895 That's like Ramli... 594 01:00:09,813 --> 01:00:12,272 We had to cut off his penis. 595 01:00:13,001 --> 01:00:15,543 From behind. Chopping here. 596 01:00:16,688 --> 01:00:21,022 This happened. It's history. It's historic! 597 01:00:23,147 --> 01:00:24,563 Wait a moment. 598 01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:27,605 What happened to Ramli? 599 01:00:29,313 --> 01:00:30,646 Film from there. 600 01:00:31,980 --> 01:00:34,021 And you squat here. 601 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:41,309 I brought a knife... To make the scene more authentic. 602 01:00:41,547 --> 01:00:44,490 - It's dangerous! - No, it's fine! 603 01:00:44,604 --> 01:00:47,479 It makes it more authentic. 604 01:00:47,915 --> 01:00:51,437 I should have brought a machete. 605 01:00:52,271 --> 01:00:56,896 So we cut Ramli, again and again... 606 01:00:56,922 --> 01:00:59,389 and stabbed him like this... 607 01:00:59,514 --> 01:01:01,594 until he looked dead. 608 01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:04,495 Then I pushed him in the river... 609 01:01:04,521 --> 01:01:10,281 He clung to the tree roots, begging, "Help me!" 610 01:01:12,604 --> 01:01:16,771 So we fished him out, and killed him by cutting off his penis. 611 01:01:16,854 --> 01:01:21,395 We buried him at Pelintahan... There's a gravestone now. 612 01:01:23,395 --> 01:01:27,447 Ramli was probably a good person... 613 01:01:28,185 --> 01:01:32,518 But what could we do? It was a revolution. 614 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,364 What support did you have from the army? 615 01:01:37,937 --> 01:01:41,228 They waited at the road, with the truck. 616 01:01:41,395 --> 01:01:44,072 They didn't come down here. 617 01:01:44,728 --> 01:01:47,655 They never came down here. 618 01:01:47,934 --> 01:01:52,101 They called this: "the people's struggle". 619 01:01:52,353 --> 01:01:55,821 So they kept their distance. 620 01:01:56,901 --> 01:02:02,020 If the army was seen doing this, the world would be angry. 621 01:02:02,186 --> 01:02:04,895 "�The army is killing the communists!" 622 01:02:04,978 --> 01:02:07,686 So to protect their image, 623 01:02:07,770 --> 01:02:12,436 they made it look like... the people exterminated the communists. 624 01:02:12,462 --> 01:02:16,212 But everybody knows the army was behind it. 625 01:02:27,977 --> 01:02:30,821 You were chief of Komando Aksi. 626 01:02:31,102 --> 01:02:34,894 Many people were killed, especially at Snake River. 627 01:02:34,936 --> 01:02:37,519 Did you order it? 628 01:02:38,269 --> 01:02:40,061 The mass killings were... 629 01:02:41,644 --> 01:02:44,654 the spontaneous action of the people. 630 01:02:46,685 --> 01:02:49,529 The people hated communism. 631 01:02:51,293 --> 01:02:58,571 Komando Aksi picked up the victims from political prisons... 632 01:02:58,954 --> 01:03:05,852 and with police escort brought them to Snake River to be killed. 633 01:03:06,826 --> 01:03:10,451 How can you call that "spontaneous"? 634 01:03:11,685 --> 01:03:14,893 You misunderstand me... 635 01:03:15,004 --> 01:03:17,839 Speaker of the regional legislature M.Y. Basrun. 636 01:03:18,118 --> 01:03:25,143 What I meant by "spontaneous" was the people's hatred of communism. 637 01:03:26,907 --> 01:03:32,615 Aren't you just saying this because you're in the legislature? 638 01:03:33,268 --> 01:03:37,018 No, I'm setting the record straight. 639 01:03:39,393 --> 01:03:41,111 I'm not Rambo. 640 01:03:42,018 --> 01:03:45,893 I was Secretary General of Komando Aksi. 641 01:03:48,340 --> 01:03:53,965 Or is the crime so big you don't want to admit it? 642 01:03:54,465 --> 01:03:57,767 No, I don't think it's big. 643 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:01,704 But a million people were killed. 644 01:04:03,517 --> 01:04:05,184 That's politics. 645 01:04:07,287 --> 01:04:10,870 Politics is the process of achieving one's ideals ... 646 01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:16,431 in various ways. 647 01:04:20,142 --> 01:04:21,309 Right? 648 01:04:23,021 --> 01:04:29,696 Since 1971, you've been head of the legislature. 649 01:04:31,975 --> 01:04:36,058 There may be hundreds of thousands of victims here. 650 01:04:36,808 --> 01:04:39,819 How do you do politics... 651 01:04:39,999 --> 01:04:46,205 surrounded by the families of people you killed? 652 01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,016 It's like this... 653 01:04:52,961 --> 01:04:56,965 If you want to talk politics... 654 01:04:57,766 --> 01:05:02,224 if the victims' children didn't like me... 655 01:05:03,391 --> 01:05:06,318 I would never get the most votes. 656 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:09,206 I'd never get re-elected. 657 01:05:10,849 --> 01:05:12,849 This is proof: 658 01:05:12,974 --> 01:05:15,474 I'm not arrogant. 659 01:05:16,983 --> 01:05:19,774 You should never hurt people's feelings. 660 01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:22,219 Make them feel better! 661 01:05:23,141 --> 01:05:24,641 Visit them. 662 01:05:25,141 --> 01:05:27,224 Formally or informally. 663 01:05:28,321 --> 01:05:31,779 Don't you intimidate them into voting for you? 664 01:05:31,930 --> 01:05:33,972 Of course not. 665 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,224 I was born in February 1968. 666 01:05:44,315 --> 01:05:49,013 And my brother was a victim... 667 01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:55,227 ...brutally murdered by your men. 668 01:05:58,630 --> 01:06:01,473 Let me ask you something... 669 01:06:01,802 --> 01:06:05,136 Do the victims' families... 670 01:06:05,702 --> 01:06:09,036 ...want the killings to happen again? 671 01:06:09,515 --> 01:06:12,073 - Of course not. - No? Then change! 672 01:06:15,140 --> 01:06:19,935 If you keep making an issue of the past,... 673 01:06:20,728 --> 01:06:23,420 it will definitely happen again. 674 01:06:25,056 --> 01:06:26,848 It will definitely happen again. 675 01:06:30,011 --> 01:06:32,470 Sooner or later, it will happen again. 676 01:06:48,972 --> 01:06:52,014 "Aisyah went to..." What's it say?... 677 01:06:52,887 --> 01:06:55,588 "The canteen". 678 01:06:55,806 --> 01:07:00,108 When she got home, Aisyah ate lunch... 679 01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:02,191 and took a nap. 680 01:07:04,055 --> 01:07:07,555 - This is a long story. - Aisyah went to the market. 681 01:07:07,722 --> 01:07:10,222 She bought squid. 682 01:07:12,805 --> 01:07:14,097 Oops, I farted. 683 01:07:16,023 --> 01:07:17,940 How rude! 684 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,888 Keep reading. It's about my fart. 685 01:07:24,545 --> 01:07:26,429 - Where? - Here. 686 01:07:27,585 --> 01:07:29,304 It stinks! 687 01:07:35,547 --> 01:07:38,796 Smells good, doesn't it? 688 01:07:40,254 --> 01:07:42,254 This will be even worse! 689 01:07:47,582 --> 01:07:50,290 How long haven't you brushed... 690 01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:53,566 ...your teeth? 691 01:07:53,804 --> 01:07:57,054 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... 692 01:07:58,221 --> 01:07:59,446 One year. 693 01:08:02,337 --> 01:08:03,503 It's been a year. 694 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,667 Let me see that, Aisyah. 695 01:08:27,681 --> 01:08:30,973 If I knew you were going to meet... 696 01:08:33,970 --> 01:08:35,606 ...the killers... 697 01:08:36,790 --> 01:08:39,165 I wouldn't have let you. 698 01:08:41,906 --> 01:08:42,947 They... 699 01:08:44,345 --> 01:08:46,803 could have kidnapped you... 700 01:08:47,928 --> 01:08:50,553 Or had you killed and dumped somewhere. 701 01:08:52,053 --> 01:08:53,553 Didn't you think... 702 01:08:55,382 --> 01:08:58,716 about your children? 703 01:09:02,921 --> 01:09:06,171 If something bad happens to you, what about us? 704 01:09:57,844 --> 01:09:59,760 - Is uncle home? - Yes. 705 01:10:04,606 --> 01:10:06,682 - How are you? - I'm fine. 706 01:10:13,453 --> 01:10:15,119 Is uncle inside? 707 01:10:28,681 --> 01:10:29,931 How are you, uncle? 708 01:10:34,587 --> 01:10:36,503 - Are you well? - Yes. 709 01:10:38,064 --> 01:10:41,074 I came to check your eyes... 710 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:44,533 because you said the were bothering you. 711 01:10:51,354 --> 01:10:53,729 How is this? More clear? 712 01:10:54,848 --> 01:10:58,139 Not really, it's the same. 713 01:10:58,593 --> 01:11:01,218 - Is it worse? - No, the same. 714 01:11:07,547 --> 01:11:10,671 - How old are you? - 82. 715 01:11:14,009 --> 01:11:17,259 what's the age difference with mom?? 716 01:11:17,486 --> 01:11:19,569 Not much. 717 01:11:27,475 --> 01:11:31,809 - Were you living here in 1965? - Yes. 718 01:11:32,007 --> 01:11:36,715 That's when Ramli was in prison here. 719 01:11:38,925 --> 01:11:40,644 I was ordered... 720 01:11:41,401 --> 01:11:43,568 To guard the prisoners. 721 01:11:43,594 --> 01:11:45,802 Oh, you were a prison guard? 722 01:11:52,295 --> 01:11:55,223 I didn't know... 723 01:11:55,466 --> 01:11:59,716 what happened after they took the prisoners away. 724 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,300 I was just a guard. 725 01:12:04,189 --> 01:12:07,772 Did you see the prisoners being taken away? 726 01:12:07,904 --> 01:12:09,695 Of course! 727 01:12:10,133 --> 01:12:12,299 Every time the truck came, 728 01:12:12,716 --> 01:12:15,424 they took another 30. 729 01:12:21,424 --> 01:12:24,466 When did you realize all the prisoners... 730 01:12:25,549 --> 01:12:28,476 you guarded were killed? 731 01:12:29,497 --> 01:12:30,789 When? 732 01:12:30,924 --> 01:12:33,507 A Komando Akis member told me... 733 01:12:33,549 --> 01:12:38,257 "Last night, while you were on duty, 734 01:12:38,841 --> 01:12:41,768 we killed all those prisoners". 735 01:12:41,799 --> 01:12:47,393 They threw the bodies down old wells, in Snake River. 736 01:12:57,628 --> 01:13:02,637 I found out from members of Komando Aksi. 737 01:13:17,101 --> 01:13:19,999 Couldn't you defend him? 738 01:13:20,603 --> 01:13:26,020 Or ask them not to kill your nephew? 739 01:13:27,459 --> 01:13:29,709 No, I couldn't... 740 01:13:30,305 --> 01:13:32,264 Komando Aksi... 741 01:13:32,646 --> 01:13:36,781 was under army command... 742 01:13:37,006 --> 01:13:39,298 and so was I. 743 01:13:45,127 --> 01:13:50,168 I was ordered to guard the prison, so I did. 744 01:13:51,048 --> 01:13:52,683 But you don't feel... 745 01:13:53,034 --> 01:13:54,784 ...regret? 746 01:13:54,964 --> 01:13:59,047 You guarded people so they could be slaughtered. 747 01:13:59,784 --> 01:14:01,756 You were part... 748 01:14:04,188 --> 01:14:05,438 ...of the killings. 749 01:14:05,664 --> 01:14:07,914 You think I'm responsible? 750 01:14:08,589 --> 01:14:13,839 I did it to defend the state, so I don't feel that way. 751 01:14:16,028 --> 01:14:18,112 The past is past. 752 01:14:19,255 --> 01:14:24,130 I know it's the past, but you don't feel regret? 753 01:14:24,922 --> 01:14:28,047 If I refused, I'd be accused too. 754 01:14:28,255 --> 01:14:32,130 Better just to follow orders. 755 01:14:32,835 --> 01:14:35,544 The point is I didn't kill anyone. 756 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,963 You know those prisoners didn't do anything. 757 01:14:43,088 --> 01:14:46,838 That means you helped kill innocent people. 758 01:14:47,421 --> 01:14:52,463 I did not help! I didn't take a machete and slaughter people. 759 01:14:54,171 --> 01:14:56,088 But you guarded them. 760 01:14:56,497 --> 01:15:00,664 Yes! I was told they were bad people. 761 01:15:03,379 --> 01:15:05,963 What's more, they never pray! 762 01:15:09,446 --> 01:15:13,779 In 1965, communists rushed to the mosques... 763 01:15:14,983 --> 01:15:19,285 because they were afraid of being slaughtered. 764 01:15:21,246 --> 01:15:24,496 Later, they stopped going. 765 01:15:27,869 --> 01:15:31,869 Ask them yourself if you don't believe me. 766 01:15:33,254 --> 01:15:35,879 They pretend to be religious. 767 01:15:36,671 --> 01:15:38,462 And you blame me! 768 01:15:39,521 --> 01:15:41,074 How dare you! 769 01:16:51,029 --> 01:16:56,456 Did you know your brother guarded the prisoners? 770 01:16:57,711 --> 01:17:00,169 No, I didn't know. 771 01:17:00,447 --> 01:17:02,082 I went to see him. 772 01:17:06,419 --> 01:17:09,627 I asked about it, and he said he was a guard. 773 01:17:13,495 --> 01:17:16,286 He never dared tell me. 774 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,669 - He never told you? - No. 775 01:17:22,543 --> 01:17:24,627 I said to him... 776 01:17:27,083 --> 01:17:31,333 "Uncle, you indirectly helped kill Ramli". 777 01:17:34,002 --> 01:17:35,210 What did he say? 778 01:17:35,918 --> 01:17:39,168 His excuse is that he was defending the state. 779 01:17:39,293 --> 01:17:41,793 Defending the state! What nonsense. 780 01:17:42,418 --> 01:17:43,803 Was he paid... 781 01:17:44,497 --> 01:17:47,258 to help kill Ramli? 782 01:17:49,487 --> 01:17:51,612 He also must have helped... 783 01:17:52,585 --> 01:17:54,418 ...take Ramli away. 784 01:17:56,999 --> 01:18:00,207 He says he didn't know Ramli was going to be killed. 785 01:18:00,284 --> 01:18:03,701 He's lying! Everybody there was involved. 786 01:18:09,876 --> 01:18:11,543 I never knew about this. 787 01:18:13,134 --> 01:18:14,259 I never knew. 788 01:18:21,001 --> 01:18:23,084 I never knew! 789 01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:21,999 Can you see? 790 01:19:23,179 --> 01:19:24,345 Dad? 791 01:19:27,916 --> 01:19:29,333 Open your eyes, dad. 792 01:19:30,416 --> 01:19:31,968 See the light? 793 01:19:34,083 --> 01:19:36,843 I think I see something. 794 01:19:46,457 --> 01:19:48,416 I see very little. 795 01:19:57,832 --> 01:20:03,176 I found out when I was in junior high school... 796 01:20:03,707 --> 01:20:08,415 People would say: "Your father killed many communists". 797 01:20:10,586 --> 01:20:16,461 I was proud my dad exterminated communists. 798 01:20:20,623 --> 01:20:23,248 My father is famous around here. 799 01:20:23,972 --> 01:20:27,066 People respect him. 800 01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:37,790 Once, I brought a woman's head to a Chinese coffee shop. 801 01:20:38,748 --> 01:20:40,581 The Chinese screamed. 802 01:20:48,748 --> 01:20:51,841 - You brought a woman's head? - Yes. 803 01:20:54,581 --> 01:20:57,873 - To frighten the Chinese? - Yes. 804 01:20:58,998 --> 01:21:02,331 Why was that useful for you? 805 01:21:03,872 --> 01:21:05,164 I threw it away. 806 01:21:05,310 --> 01:21:08,935 No, he's asking what was the use of frightening the Chinese? 807 01:21:09,065 --> 01:21:12,482 - So they'd be scared. - Just to scare them? 808 01:21:13,372 --> 01:21:18,081 - Just to scare them. - Then I threw it in the trash. 809 01:21:22,205 --> 01:21:26,455 I kept killing them, dumping the bodies in the river. 810 01:21:28,071 --> 01:21:32,206 Their hands were tied behind their backs. 811 01:21:34,580 --> 01:21:36,247 I'd bring a glass. 812 01:21:36,664 --> 01:21:40,122 Slit their throats. Collect the blood. 813 01:21:40,483 --> 01:21:43,858 There were many... Did you do that to everyone? 814 01:21:45,338 --> 01:21:49,213 No... Two glasses was enough. 815 01:21:52,038 --> 01:21:53,455 That's what we did 816 01:21:56,684 --> 01:21:59,851 Where did you take the blood from? 817 01:22:01,246 --> 01:22:04,955 From the throat, of course! Pour it in a glass. 818 01:22:05,106 --> 01:22:08,163 Slit their throats and collect it in a glass. 819 01:22:11,902 --> 01:22:13,402 Then drink it. 820 01:22:15,129 --> 01:22:19,754 - Why did you do that? - So I wouldn't go crazy. 821 01:22:38,329 --> 01:22:40,829 Your father killed... 822 01:22:41,662 --> 01:22:43,246 so many people. 823 01:22:43,746 --> 01:22:46,954 And he drank their blood. 824 01:22:47,308 --> 01:22:52,558 - How do you feel? - I never knew this. It's terrifying. 825 01:22:55,957 --> 01:22:57,873 That he drank blood... 826 01:22:58,208 --> 01:23:00,333 Today's the first time you heard? 827 01:23:01,495 --> 01:23:04,787 - How do you feel? - What can I say? 828 01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:07,995 I heard it just know. Sadistic. 829 01:23:13,151 --> 01:23:16,401 Maybe because he drank it he's still strong. 830 01:23:21,227 --> 01:23:23,185 I never knew this before... 831 01:23:33,620 --> 01:23:35,255 My story is... 832 01:23:37,370 --> 01:23:38,838 My brother... 833 01:23:40,161 --> 01:23:41,828 was killed too.... 834 01:23:48,444 --> 01:23:50,028 Back then... 835 01:23:55,661 --> 01:23:57,380 It's getting late. 836 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,355 If your brother was killed, please forgive my father. 837 01:24:18,702 --> 01:24:23,244 None of his children knew. We were very young. 838 01:24:29,494 --> 01:24:31,129 I feel... 839 01:24:41,952 --> 01:24:45,868 It's not your fault that your father is a murderer. 840 01:24:49,201 --> 01:24:52,891 Whatever he is, he is your father. 841 01:25:06,409 --> 01:25:09,118 - It's getting late! - Be patient. 842 01:25:12,076 --> 01:25:15,368 I feel I know you. Have we met before? 843 01:25:17,243 --> 01:25:18,659 At work? 844 01:25:20,090 --> 01:25:22,049 I think I know you too. 845 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,450 We know each other now. We're like family. 846 01:25:25,575 --> 01:25:27,950 Your kids should go to the mosque. 847 01:25:30,893 --> 01:25:36,352 Please forgive my father. Think of us as family. 848 01:25:39,603 --> 01:25:43,186 He's old now. Consider him your own father. 849 01:25:45,242 --> 01:25:49,377 When you pass by, please visit us. I have no mother anymore. 850 01:25:49,492 --> 01:25:52,034 I take care of him now. He's senile. 851 01:25:53,265 --> 01:25:57,348 He doesn't remember much. He's old and senile. 852 01:25:59,033 --> 01:26:02,825 I quit my job to take care of him. 853 01:26:03,367 --> 01:26:07,669 When visitors come, he doesn't recognize them. 854 01:26:08,167 --> 01:26:11,708 He can't even remember his family. 855 01:26:15,325 --> 01:26:17,158 I take care of him now. 856 01:26:21,658 --> 01:26:23,377 I have to go now. 857 01:26:25,283 --> 01:26:27,408 Goodbye, sir. 858 01:26:55,741 --> 01:26:57,949 Do you remember Ramli? 859 01:27:02,616 --> 01:27:04,032 Do you remember? 860 01:27:10,199 --> 01:27:12,657 Do you remember your dead son? 861 01:27:15,074 --> 01:27:16,365 Do you remember? 862 01:27:16,636 --> 01:27:18,844 - Who are you? - It's me. 863 01:27:19,574 --> 01:27:22,073 Do you remember your son Ramli? 864 01:27:22,323 --> 01:27:26,073 - Who? - Ramli. He was taken away. 865 01:27:26,365 --> 01:27:27,948 Who is Ramli? 866 01:27:29,530 --> 01:27:32,457 He was taken away by the mob. 867 01:27:35,948 --> 01:27:37,417 Do you remember or not? 868 01:27:37,448 --> 01:27:39,948 - Remember what? - Your son. 869 01:27:40,036 --> 01:27:41,421 He was taken away. 870 01:27:42,723 --> 01:27:46,306 - Whose son? - Your son. He was taken away. 871 01:27:46,389 --> 01:27:48,024 Do you remember? 872 01:27:48,531 --> 01:27:50,115 Remember who? 873 01:28:06,573 --> 01:28:09,666 We killed 32 people here. 874 01:28:13,322 --> 01:28:17,656 I wrote this book about what I did. 875 01:28:18,322 --> 01:28:21,249 Joshua asked for a copy. 876 01:28:22,322 --> 01:28:26,156 It's very important if you want higher education... 877 01:28:26,281 --> 01:28:30,780 So people remember us. Our descendants... 878 01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:33,739 This is a complete record of what happened here. 879 01:28:35,989 --> 01:28:37,707 Do you want a copy, too? 880 01:28:39,487 --> 01:28:41,487 I illustrated it myself... 881 01:28:44,405 --> 01:28:48,988 I made sketches to bring the story to life. 882 01:28:49,484 --> 01:28:51,859 Oh, this is Snake River. 883 01:28:55,530 --> 01:28:58,572 - The iron bridge... My God... - Oh, yes. 884 01:28:59,490 --> 01:29:04,782 After it was all over, who would buy fish? 885 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,837 Nobody would buy fish or clams. 886 01:29:07,863 --> 01:29:12,561 Nobody would eat fish. The fish were eating human bodies. 887 01:29:20,363 --> 01:29:25,488 Your husband killed 32 people here. 888 01:29:28,085 --> 01:29:32,387 I wanted to meet your husband... 889 01:29:33,446 --> 01:29:36,071 but since he passed away... 890 01:29:37,321 --> 01:29:41,373 at least I can meet you, and your sons. 891 01:29:50,821 --> 01:29:54,112 Of the 32 people killed here... 892 01:29:55,612 --> 01:29:59,945 the worst story is about my brother Ramli. 893 01:30:01,570 --> 01:30:03,987 He was chopped in the shoulder... 894 01:30:06,695 --> 01:30:08,945 He was stabbed in the stomach. 895 01:30:10,695 --> 01:30:12,612 His intestine spilled out... 896 01:30:14,153 --> 01:30:16,403 He was stabbed in the back. 897 01:30:16,945 --> 01:30:19,028 But he managed to run home. 898 01:30:19,112 --> 01:30:22,122 From the front yard, he called for mom. 899 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:29,195 She brought him inside, but in the morning they took him away. 900 01:30:31,153 --> 01:30:35,778 Your husband took him away. Because your husband was commander. 901 01:30:36,195 --> 01:30:37,936 Your husband told mom, 902 01:30:38,645 --> 01:30:41,970 that he would take Ramli to the hospital. 903 01:30:42,679 --> 01:30:47,236 But in the truck, they chopped him up. 904 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:48,444 Oh God... 905 01:30:48,611 --> 01:30:51,403 Then they cut off his penis... 906 01:30:52,361 --> 01:30:53,861 and finally he died. 907 01:30:55,816 --> 01:30:59,316 Your husband even drew pictures of it. 908 01:31:09,652 --> 01:31:14,069 I never saw this book. Did you get it from my husband? 909 01:31:14,194 --> 01:31:16,871 Yes, don't you remember? 910 01:31:17,694 --> 01:31:21,402 This is my brother. This is my mom. 911 01:31:22,444 --> 01:31:23,829 This is my brother. 912 01:31:25,152 --> 01:31:27,652 This is what your husband drew. 913 01:31:28,404 --> 01:31:33,112 We know nothing about this. My husband never told us. 914 01:31:33,860 --> 01:31:36,149 There was a book, but we never read it. 915 01:31:36,637 --> 01:31:38,626 My husband said he never killed anyone. 916 01:31:39,137 --> 01:31:41,898 - But it's in his book. - Really? 917 01:31:42,902 --> 01:31:44,152 - Yes. - We know nothing about it. 918 01:31:44,902 --> 01:31:49,735 We didn't know what he was doing. 919 01:31:49,777 --> 01:31:52,152 We were just kids. 920 01:31:52,193 --> 01:31:55,068 We never knew, and he never told us. 921 01:31:56,975 --> 01:32:00,267 I don't want to make you uncomfortable... 922 01:32:00,992 --> 01:32:03,034 Because I've been ill. 923 01:32:03,901 --> 01:32:07,985 But Adi is here to speak openly... 924 01:32:08,818 --> 01:32:12,068 Everyone around here is friends. 925 01:32:12,276 --> 01:32:17,526 Even if their parents were killed, we're all good friends. 926 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:22,609 Now the wound is open. 927 01:32:23,443 --> 01:32:25,568 Because Joshua makes this film... 928 01:32:26,568 --> 01:32:30,401 and my father wrote this book, 929 01:32:30,443 --> 01:32:32,942 the wound is open. 930 01:32:34,651 --> 01:32:38,457 - Otherwise, you wouldn't know me, right? - of course I knew. 931 01:32:38,944 --> 01:32:42,429 I knew all about this family. 932 01:32:42,734 --> 01:32:46,526 All the victims' families know who the killers are. 933 01:32:46,609 --> 01:32:49,400 But that doesn't mean we want revenge. 934 01:32:49,535 --> 01:32:52,635 Do you want revenge? 935 01:32:53,984 --> 01:32:57,359 If I wanted revenge, I wouldn't come like this. 936 01:32:57,442 --> 01:33:01,494 Who knows? Maybe that's why Joshua came! 937 01:33:01,567 --> 01:33:05,109 If I were in your shoes... 938 01:33:05,359 --> 01:33:06,692 Excuse me. 939 01:33:06,900 --> 01:33:10,358 If I met a perpetrator, 940 01:33:11,358 --> 01:33:13,233 or his sons... 941 01:33:14,075 --> 01:33:19,450 Enough! My mom is ill, and this will traumatize her. 942 01:33:19,897 --> 01:33:21,282 Forget the past. 943 01:33:21,442 --> 01:33:27,608 Let's all get along like the military dictatorship taught us. 944 01:33:28,191 --> 01:33:32,108 You want us to be open. But how can we? We know nothing. 945 01:33:33,670 --> 01:33:36,087 Look at this, please. 946 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,200 Just press the space bar. 947 01:33:42,524 --> 01:33:48,858 The people we killed on the plantation... like Ramli... 948 01:33:50,191 --> 01:33:52,899 This is Snake River. 949 01:33:56,443 --> 01:33:59,120 - The iron bridge... My God.... - Oh, yes. 950 01:34:00,566 --> 01:34:05,066 This reminds me of my father. I don't want to see this. 951 01:34:06,399 --> 01:34:08,774 Let's just talk. 952 01:34:11,107 --> 01:34:14,399 I can't stand this. Turn it off! 953 01:34:15,190 --> 01:34:17,524 Why are you shouting? 954 01:34:47,312 --> 01:34:50,812 Is there anything else you want to say, Adi? 955 01:34:51,023 --> 01:34:52,127 No. 956 01:34:53,023 --> 01:34:55,398 Adi, we apologize. 957 01:34:55,606 --> 01:34:58,856 We feel the same way you do. 958 01:35:16,273 --> 01:35:18,856 Just one more clip. 959 01:35:19,856 --> 01:35:23,189 I don't care. 960 01:35:23,231 --> 01:35:25,689 I know nothing about this. 961 01:35:28,147 --> 01:35:31,106 Do you want this to end well or not? 962 01:35:31,147 --> 01:35:35,533 - We know nothing. - Here he explains... 963 01:35:36,272 --> 01:35:40,113 Look, we know nothing about this. 964 01:35:40,322 --> 01:35:41,962 Don't make trouble, Joshua. 965 01:35:42,272 --> 01:35:45,282 Have pity on him. He's dead and buried... 966 01:35:45,314 --> 01:35:49,189 I welcomed you here, Joshua, but I don't like you anymore. 967 01:36:09,980 --> 01:36:11,365 Oh, no... 968 01:36:16,563 --> 01:36:18,855 Where am I? 969 01:36:24,521 --> 01:36:25,730 Oh, no. 970 01:36:29,230 --> 01:36:32,688 I'm in somebody else's house... 971 01:36:36,771 --> 01:36:38,771 How did I get here? 972 01:36:41,271 --> 01:36:46,063 Help me! I've wandered into a stranger's house. 973 01:36:50,104 --> 01:36:53,229 Help! I'm in a stranger's house! 974 01:36:53,868 --> 01:36:57,659 He's going to beat me up. 975 01:37:27,812 --> 01:37:29,687 You survived. 976 01:37:29,895 --> 01:37:31,364 Let it go. 977 01:37:32,687 --> 01:37:34,812 Leave it to God. 978 01:37:38,312 --> 01:37:40,770 I can't hold it in. 979 01:37:41,436 --> 01:37:43,603 My son is gone. 980 01:37:44,353 --> 01:37:46,103 But you survived. 981 01:37:51,103 --> 01:37:55,061 He crawled home through the rice fields... 982 01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,603 Then they came for him... 983 01:38:00,061 --> 01:38:03,436 They said they'd take him to the hospital. 984 01:38:04,894 --> 01:38:08,644 I knew it was a lie... 985 01:38:09,248 --> 01:38:12,832 I begged to go with him, but they refused. 986 01:38:19,436 --> 01:38:22,561 That's the true story of Ramli. 987 01:38:25,811 --> 01:38:29,602 And the others have similar stories... 988 01:38:29,769 --> 01:38:31,811 ...but not the same! 989 01:38:32,519 --> 01:38:36,654 But that's what we experienced. 990 01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:40,227 That's what happened. 991 01:38:51,435 --> 01:38:54,362 Well, that's how it is... Life on earth. 992 01:39:08,435 --> 01:39:11,112 Feel free to take a photo. 993 01:39:35,768 --> 01:39:38,184 I'm trying to talk to you... 994 01:39:39,476 --> 01:39:41,392 But you keep running... 995 01:39:43,767 --> 01:39:47,351 This one comes, and falls... 996 01:39:52,226 --> 01:39:54,392 You don't want to move... 997 01:39:59,392 --> 01:40:00,975 Aren't you tired? 998 01:40:01,434 --> 01:40:02,767 Sleep... 999 01:40:05,059 --> 01:40:06,809 I can't see you. 1000 01:40:07,267 --> 01:40:08,819 Are you there? 1001 01:40:15,683 --> 01:40:17,517 I want to see you. 1002 01:40:18,642 --> 01:40:19,975 Come out. 1003 01:40:21,475 --> 01:40:23,308 Are you really there?